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Home > Council & democracy > Council meetings > Agenda for Licensing Sub Committee on Tuesday, 18th July, 2023, 6.30 p.m.

Agenda, decisions and minutes

Licensing Sub Committee - Tuesday, 18th July, 2023 6.30 p.m.

  • Attendance details
  • Agenda frontsheet PDF 341 KB
  • Agenda reports pack
  • Application for a Temporary Event Notice for Boat Live, 90 White Post Lane Hackney Wick London E9 5EN PDF 4 MB
  • Printed decisions PDF 279 KB
  • Printed minutes PDF 228 KB

Venue: Council Chamber - Town Hall, Whitechapel. View directions

Contact: Farzana Chowdhury, Democratic Services Officer  Tel: 020 7364 3037, E-mail:  farzana.chowdhury@towerhamlets.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

1.

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST pdf icon PDF 215 KB

Members are reminded to consider the categories of interest, identified in the Code of Conduct for Members to determine: whether they have an interest in any agenda item and any action they should take. For further details, see the attached note from the Monitoring Officer.

 

Members are also reminded to declare the nature of the interest at the earliest opportunity and the agenda item it relates to. Please note that ultimately it is the Members’ responsibility to identify any interests and also update their register of interest form as required by the Code.

 

If in doubt as to the nature of an interest, you are advised to seek advice prior the meeting by contacting the Monitoring Officer or Democratic Services.

Minutes:

There were no declarations of interest.

2.

RULES OF PROCEDURE pdf icon PDF 290 KB

To note the rules of procedure which are attached for information.

Additional documents:

  • Guidance for Licensing Sub , item 2. pdf icon PDF 141 KB

Minutes:

The rules of procedure were noted.

3.

ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION

3.1

Application for variation of a Premises Licence for Wapping Tavern, 78-80 Wapping Lane, London, E1W 2RT - WITHDRAWN pdf icon PDF 436 KB

Licensing Objectives:

 

·       Prevention of Public Nuisance

·       Prevention of Crime and Disorder

 

Representations:

 

·       Residents

 

Ward: St Katherine’s & Wapping

Additional documents:

  • Wapping Lane , item 3.1 pdf icon PDF 2 MB

Minutes:

This application was withdrawn.

3.2

Application for a new premises licence in respect of Snack N That 381 Bethnal Green Road E2 0AN pdf icon PDF 188 KB

Licensing Objectives:

 

·       Prevention of Public Nuisance

·       Prevention of Crime and Disorder

 

Representations:

 

·       Licensing Authority

 

Ward: Bethnal Green West

 

Additional documents:

  • Bethanl Road , item 3.2 pdf icon PDF 1 MB

Minutes:

The Licensing Objectives

 

In considering the application, Members were required to consider the same in accordance with the Licensing Act 2003 (as amended), the Licensing Objectives, the Home Office Guidance and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy and in particular to have regard to the promotion of the four licensing objectives:

 

·       The Prevention of Crime and Disorder;

·       Public Safety;

·       The Prevention of Public Nuisance; and

·       The Protection of Children from Harm.

 

Consideration

 

Each application must be considered on its own merits. The Chair confirmed that the Sub-Committee had carefully considered all of the evidence before them meeting.

 

The Sub-Committee noted from the report, that this was an application for a new premises licence for Snack N That, 381 Bethnal Green Road, London, E2 0AN, located in the Brick Lane Cumulative Impact Zone.

 

The Sub-Committee noted that the applicant described the premises as: A grocery shop specialising in American sweets and alcohol, and that the

hours applied for were:-

 

Sale of alcohol (off sales)

Monday to Sunday 10:00 hours - 23:00 hours

Hours open the public

Monday to Sunday 10:00 hours - 23:00 hours

 

The Sub-Committee noted that the applicant was targeting a market in specialist alcoholic drinks, mostly craft beers and American beers, and that he had had feedback from existing customers to specialise in this type of business. The Sub-Committee noted the applicant presenting his shop as a family run business, always manned by two people, against whom there had been no complaints.

 

The Sub-Committee recognised that the applicant had presented an operating schedule, which would suffice for premises not situated in a cumulative impact zone.

 

However, the Sub-Committee could not ignore the fact that the premises are in a cumulative impact zone. The Sub-Committee was concerned that the applicant had overlooked the following.

 

Paragraph 19.6 of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets’ Statement of Licensing Policy, which the applicant and the general public could view on the Council’s website says, “The Special Cumulative Impact policy creates a rebuttable presumption that where relevant representations are received by one or more of the responsible authorities and/or other persons against applications within the CIZ zones the application will be refused.”

 

Paragraph 19.7 of the same says, “Where representations have been received in respect to applications within the CIZ zones the onus is on applicants to adequately rebut the presumption. Applicants will need to demonstrate in their applications why the granting of their application will not negatively add to the cumulative already experience within the CIZ Zones.  Applicants may wish to address the following in their applications:

 

•         Genuinely exceptional circumstances,

•         Relevant good practices they employ (for example, this could include details of membership of local Pubwatch/other trade groups,

•         Accreditation of Award Schemes (as applicable), and any participation in Police/Council initiatives),

•         Other good operational/practice arrangements in respect of any outside drinking and smoking to control potential impact in the area,

•         Measures used to promote the licensing objectives (for example, any relevant conditions to control noise, dispersal,  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.2

4.

Temporary Event Notice for Boat Live, 90 White Post Lane Hackney Wick London E9 5ENA pdf icon PDF 129 KB

Licensing Objectives:

 

·       The prevention of public nuisance

·       The prevention of crime and disorder

 

Representations:

 

·       Metropolitan Police

·       Environmental Protection

 

Ward: Bow East

Additional documents:

  • WhitePostLa90_20-23JulAppendixRED , item 4. pdf icon PDF 3 MB

Decision:

In considering this application, the Sub-Committee have regard to the licensing objectives of prevention of crime and disorder, prevention of public nuisance, protection of children from harm, public safety, as well as the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy and the Secretary of State’s guidance.

 

In particular, the Sub-Committee considered the implications of what was said and written by the parties in relation to the prevention of public nuisance, the prevention of crime and disorder, and public safety.

 

The Sub-Committee appreciated that work had been done in relation to the boat, and that as the police indicated, the police have no current safety concerns.

 

However, the Sub-Committee were concerned that whilst Mr. Rose had assured them that there will be a security policy and dispersal plan, there was no evidence of these before the Sub-Committee. The Sub-Committee were therefore not satisfied that there were adequate measures in place to address public safety.

 

The Sub-Committee were concerned that the applicant had not produced any evidence of adequate measures to prevent noise breakout, not only in relation to music, but also in relation to a significant number of patrons attending as well as going to and from the event.

 

The Sub-Committee noted the concerns about this expressed by the police and Environmental Health.

 

The Sub-Committee noted that according to the police, there was a poor track record in relation to crime and disorder and prevention of public nuisance relating to past events.  

 

Having regard to the oral and written submissions, the Sub-Committee was satisfied that allowing the TEN to proceed would undermine the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, the prevention of public nuisance, and ensuring public safety. The decision of the Sub-Committee is therefore to issue a counter-notice.

 

The Sub-Committee would ask all the parties to note that although TENs are a light touch regime and the engagement that might be expected in respect of a TEN may often be less than that for a new premises licence application, there have now been a considerable number of TENs sought for these premises, generally all of a similar nature. All of those have attracted objections from the police and environmental health.

 

The apparent lack of dialogue between the parties potentially means that there is no scope for any compromise because once the application for a counter-notice comes before the Sub-Committee, we can only consider the TEN as given and cannot change any aspect of it.

 

The Sub-Committee would like to remind the police and Environmental Health of their ability to engage with the premises user in the representations period and modify the TEN as they think appropriate which, if accepted, will result in the withdrawal of their objection. Equally, the premises user has been informed that it may not be the best course of action to give the TEN on the basis of the event being a test, rather than seeking to work with environmental health beforehand so that, for example, appropriate sound levels might be set. The Sub-Committee notes  ...  view the full decision text for item 4.

Minutes:

In considering this application, the Sub-Committee have regard to the licensing objectives of prevention of crime and disorder, prevention of public nuisance, protection of children from harm, public safety, as well as the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy and the Secretary of State’s guidance.

 

In particular, the Sub-Committee considered the implications of what was said and written by the parties in relation to the prevention of public nuisance, the prevention of crime and disorder, and public safety.

 

The Sub-Committee appreciated that work had been done in relation to the boat, and that as the police indicated, the police have no current safety concerns.

 

However, the Sub-Committee were concerned that whilst Mr. Rose had assured them that there will be a security policy and dispersal plan, there was no evidence of these before the Sub-Committee. The Sub-Committee were therefore not satisfied that there were adequate measures in place to address public safety.

 

The Sub-Committee were concerned that the applicant had not produced any evidence of adequate measures to prevent noise breakout, not only in relation to music, but also in relation to a significant number of patrons attending as well as going to and from the event.

 

The Sub-Committee noted the concerns about this expressed by the police and Environmental Health.

 

The Sub-Committee noted that according to the police, there was a poor track record in relation to crime and disorder and prevention of public nuisance relating to past events.  

 

Having regard to the oral and written submissions, the Sub-Committee was satisfied that allowing the TEN to proceed would undermine the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, the prevention of public nuisance, and ensuring public safety.

 

The decision of the Sub-Committee is therefore to issue a counter-notice.

 

The Sub-Committee would ask all the parties to note that although TENs are a light touch regime and the engagement that might be expected in respect of a TEN may often be less than that for a new premises licence application, there have now been a considerable number of TENs sought for these premises, generally all of a similar nature. All of those have attracted objections from the police and environmental health.

 

The apparent lack of dialogue between the parties potentially means that there is no scope for any compromise because once the application for a counter-notice comes before the Sub-Committee, we can only consider the TEN as given and cannot change any aspect of it.

 

The Sub-Committee would like to remind the police and Environmental Health of their ability to engage with the premises user in the representations period and modify the TEN as they think appropriate which, if accepted, will result in the withdrawal of their objection.

 

Equally, the premises user has been informed that it may not be the best course of action to give the TEN on the basis of the event being a test, rather than seeking to work with environmental health beforehand so that, for example, appropriate sound levels might be set. The Sub-Committee notes  ...  view the full minutes text for item 4.

5.

EXTENSION OF DECISION DEADLINE: LICENSING ACT 2003

The Sub Committee may be requested to extend the decision deadline for applications to be considered at forthcoming meetings due to the volume of applications requiring a hearing.  Where necessary, details will be provided at the meeting.

 

Decision:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perfetto Pizza 391 Cambridge Heath Road                               25th July

Denni’s Off- Licence 103 Brabazon Street London E14 6BL     25th July

Cafe Brera, 31 Westferry Circus London E14 8RR                    25th July

Wicked Fish, Queen Yard White Post Lane, London, E9 5EN  25th July

Wicked Fish, Queen Yard White Post Lane, London, E9 5EN  25th July

(Boat Live), 90 White Post Lane, London E9 5EN                     25th July

Pasta Evangelists, 148 Bethnal Green Road, London, E2 6DG 25th July

Point A Hotels13-15 Folgate Street London E1 6BX                  25th July

 

Minutes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perfetto Pizza 391 Cambridge Heath Road                               25th July

Denni’s Off- Licence 103 Brabazon Street London E14 6BL     25th July

Cafe Brera, 31 Westferry Circus London E14 8RR                    25th July

Wicked Fish, Queen Yard White Post Lane, London, E9 5EN  25th July

Wicked Fish, Queen Yard White Post Lane, London, E9 5EN  25th July

(Boat Live), 90 White Post Lane, London E9 5EN                     25th July

Pasta Evangelists, 148 Bethnal Green Road, London, E2 6DG 25th July

Point A Hotels13-15 Folgate Street London E1 6BX                  25th July

 

 

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